Tag: SaaS vs Self-Hosted

  • WordPress vs Circle, Mighty Networks and Skool

    WordPress vs Circle, Mighty Networks and Skool

    Circle, Mighty Networks and Skool are good products. Anyone claiming otherwise is selling something. They solve a genuine problem — assembling a community platform from parts is work, and these companies have done that work for you.

    The question is not which tool is best in the abstract. It is which trade you want to make, because all three are making the same one: convenience now, in exchange for control later.

    What each one is actually optimised for

    Circle is the polished one. It is aimed at creators and businesses who want a clean, modern space with discussion, events, courses and paid memberships, and it looks the part. Setup is genuinely fast. The constraint is that you work within its structure — layout, member fields, permissions and navigation go as far as the product allows and no further.

    Mighty Networks leans into network effects and discovery, with strong mobile apps and a heavy emphasis on member-to-member connection rather than a broadcast-from-the-host model. It is well suited to communities where members finding each other is the point. It is more opinionated about how a community should work, which is a feature if you agree with the opinion.

    Skool is deliberately minimal: a discussion feed, a course area, a leaderboard, and very little else. That simplicity is the product — engagement is high partly because there is nowhere to get lost. If your community is a course plus a conversation, the constraint works in your favour. If you need anything structurally different, there is no room to build it.

    Self-hosted WordPress is not a community product at all. It is a foundation you assemble a community product on, using membership, community and commerce plugins. Slower to start, unbounded afterwards.

    Side by side

    CircleMighty NetworksSkoolWordPress
    Time to launchHoursHoursMinutesDays to weeks
    CustomisationModerateModerateMinimalUnlimited
    Cost modelMonthly tiersMonthly tiersFlat monthlyHosting + plugins
    Cost at scaleRises with tier/seatsRises with tier/seatsFlatServer size only
    Data ownershipVendor-hostedVendor-hostedVendor-hostedYours
    Public SEO contentLimitedLimitedMinimalFull
    Custom integrationsAPI where offeredAPI where offeredVery limitedAnything
    Mobile appsBranded options at higher tiersStrong, branded optionsShared appVia a solution like Memberside
    Exit costMigration + churnMigration + churnMigration + churnCopy files + DB
    Vendor pricing and packaging change often — confirm current tiers before deciding.

    The four questions that actually decide it

    Feature checklists rarely settle this. These four do.

    1. Is the community the business, or a feature of it? If your revenue is memberships, the platform is your core infrastructure and outsourcing it entirely is a strategic decision, not a tooling one. If the community supports a business that earns elsewhere, hosted is perfectly rational.

    2. Do you need public content? If organic search is part of your growth plan, hosted platforms mostly cannot help — their content sits behind a login by design. WordPress lets you run the public marketing site and the private members’ area on the same installation.

    3. What breaks if you have to move in three years? Model it honestly. Ten thousand members, custom fields, three years of discussion history, active subscriptions on the vendor’s billing. Migration is not an export button; it is asking every member to re-engage somewhere new, and losing the ones who do not.

    4. How weird are your requirements? Standard community, standard courses, standard payments — hosted is fine. Member tiers driven by an external CRM, a searchable directory with domain-specific filters, regional pricing, an integration with the association database your members already use — those are WordPress problems.

    The cost comparison people get wrong

    Comparisons usually put a hosted platform’s monthly fee against WordPress hosting and stop there, which makes WordPress look cheaper than it is on day one and far more expensive than it is in year three.

    An honest total cost of ownership includes four things people leave out:

    • Setup labour. Assembling a WordPress membership stack is real work — your time or a developer’s. Budget for it honestly rather than pretending it is free because no invoice arrives.
    • Ongoing maintenance. Updates, backups, occasional plugin conflicts. A few hours a month, or a care plan.
    • Transaction percentages. A platform slice on top of payment processing compounds quietly. On $10,000 monthly recurring revenue, a few percent is a meaningful salary line over a few years.
    • Switching cost. The one nobody prices. It is not the export — it is the members who do not follow you, and it grows every month you stay.

    Run the comparison over three years rather than one month, at the community size you are actually aiming for rather than today’s, and include a plausible price increase from the vendor. The curves usually cross somewhere in the low thousands of members — earlier if any part of the pricing is per-seat or revenue-based.

    What you give up by leaving a hosted platform

    Fairness requires stating this plainly, because the self-hosted case is usually made by people who enjoy configuring things.

    You give up a product team. Circle and Mighty Networks ship improvements continuously — features you did not ask for and would not have built, informed by thousands of communities. On WordPress, improvements arrive when you or a plugin author make them happen. You also give up a support line that knows the whole system, coherent design decisions made once by people who do this full-time, and the ability to launch on a Tuesday afternoon.

    For a solo operator whose comparative advantage is teaching or facilitating rather than building, those are not small losses. The right question is not “which is technically superior” but “where do I want to spend the limited hours I have” — and for some people the correct answer is genuinely a hosted platform, permanently.

    The mobile gap, and how it closed

    For years the strongest honest argument for hosted platforms was mobile. Mighty Networks and Circle offered real apps with push notifications; WordPress offered a responsive website, and a responsive website is not where people participate in a community from a phone.

    That gap has narrowed considerably. It is now practical to run a WordPress membership site and ship a genuine native app on top of it — the members, content and payments stay in your own database while the app talks to it through the REST API. Memberside exists specifically to do this for Ultimate Member and WordPress community sites, which removes what used to be the main reason to accept a vendor owning everything else.

    Convenience is worth paying for. Just be clear about whether you are paying in money or in ownership.

    If you do migrate, plan it as a launch

    Communities that move badly lose a third of their members. Communities that move well lose almost none, and the difference is treating the migration as an event people are excited about rather than an administrative inconvenience you announce twice.

    • Give members a reason. Ship something on the new platform that the old one could not do — a directory, an app, a better search. “We moved” is not a reason; “we moved and now you can do X” is.
    • Run both for a few weeks. Read-only on the old side, everything new happening on the new side.
    • Migrate the archive if you can, and be relaxed if you cannot. Most historical discussion is rarely read again — do not delay the move for a year of threads nobody opens.
    • Move billing deliberately. Existing subscriptions are the fragile part. Give plenty of notice, honour existing prices, and make re-subscribing a single click.
    • Message the quiet members individually. Active members will follow you anywhere; the lurkers are the ones who silently churn.

    Recommendations, plainly

    • Validating an idea in the next month? Use Skool or Circle. Do not build infrastructure for a community that may not exist in ninety days.
    • Course-led community, engagement-focused? Skool’s constraints are genuinely helpful.
    • Member-to-member networking is the value? Mighty Networks is built for exactly that shape.
    • Polished creator community, standard needs, no engineering appetite? Circle.
    • Membership is the business, long horizon, SEO matters, requirements will get specific? WordPress.

    There is also a sensible hybrid: launch on a hosted platform to prove demand, and migrate once you have a paying, engaged membership and know what you actually need. Migration is painful — but it is far less painful than building bespoke infrastructure for a community that never materialises.

    If you are leaning self-hosted, the ownership case and the practical build guide are the next two things to read.

  • Why WordPress Is Still the Best Platform for Membership Sites

    Why WordPress Is Still the Best Platform for Membership Sites

    Every few years someone declares WordPress finished, and every few years it quietly keeps running a very large share of the web. For membership and community businesses specifically, the case for it has actually strengthened as hosted alternatives have matured — because the maturing has made the trade-offs visible.

    The argument is not that WordPress is easier. It frequently is not. The argument is that it is the only mainstream option where the thing you are building belongs to you.

    1. You own the members, the data and the payments

    On a hosted community platform, your members exist inside someone else’s product. Their email addresses may be exportable, but the relationship is not. The billing relationship is often intermediated. The content lives in a database you cannot query. And the terms under which all of this operates can change with a product update.

    This is not hypothetical risk. Community platforms have repriced, been acquired, deprecated features that customers built businesses on, and shut down entirely. When that happens, the migration cost is not technical — it is the churn from asking 3,000 people to move somewhere new, and the ones who never do.

    With self-hosted WordPress, the entire thing is a database and a directory of files on hosting you control. Change host, change theme, change payment processor, export everything, hire any developer on earth to work on it. Nobody can revoke access to your own members.

    If your community platform can delete your community, you do not have a community business — you have a tenancy.

    2. The economics invert as you grow

    Hosted platforms are cheap to start and expensive to succeed on. Pricing is typically per-member, per-seat or a percentage of transactions — so every new member increases your costs, and a genuinely large community can end up paying thousands a month for software.

    Self-hosted costs scale with server resources rather than with headcount, which is a fundamentally flatter curve.

    Community sizeTypical hosted SaaSSelf-hosted WordPress
    100 membersEntry tier, modestHosting + plugins, similar or slightly more
    1,000 membersMid tier, often per-seatBetter hosting; software cost unchanged
    10,000 membersEnterprise pricing, negotiatedA larger server
    Transaction feesFrequently a % on top of StripePayment processor only
    Cost of leavingMigration + member churnCopy the files and database
    Exact figures move constantly; the shape of the curve does not.

    The percentage-of-revenue models deserve particular scrutiny. A platform taking a slice of every subscription is a permanent tax on the part of your business that is working, and it grows precisely when you can least afford to migrate away from it.

    3. Extensibility you will actually need

    Every membership business eventually needs something specific that no hosted platform ships: a custom member field that drives access, a directory filtered in an unusual way, a member tier granted by an external system, a report only you care about.

    On a closed platform, the answer is a feature request and a hope. On WordPress it is an afternoon of work, because the ecosystem is enormous and the extension points are documented:

    • Membership and access control — mature plugins for profiles, roles, registration flows, content restriction and directories
    • Payments and subscriptions — WooCommerce and its subscription ecosystem, or dedicated membership billing plugins
    • Community features — activity feeds, groups, private messaging, forums, notifications
    • Courses and gated content — full LMS plugins that integrate with the same membership layer
    • Hooks, filters and a REST API for everything the plugins did not anticipate

    That last item is the real differentiator. WordPress’s REST API means your membership data is available to anything — a mobile app, an internal dashboard, an automation, a separate front end. Your community stops being a website and becomes a platform other things can be built on. That is the layer Memberside works at, turning an existing WordPress membership site into a native mobile app without moving the data anywhere.

    4. SEO and content are first-class, not an afterthought

    Most hosted community platforms keep discussions behind a login, invisible to search engines. That is defensible for a private paid community and disastrous for growth, because it means your community produces no compounding public asset.

    WordPress lets you make that decision per area rather than globally: a public blog and resource library that brings people in from search, sitting on the same installation as a members-only area that stays private. One domain, one login, one brand — with the marketing engine and the paid product sharing infrastructure instead of being two disconnected products.

    5. One login, one identity, one business

    Most membership businesses accumulate tools: a community platform, a course tool, a store, an email service, a scheduling app. Each one has its own account system, its own idea of who a member is, and its own login screen.

    Members experience this as friction — four passwords for one membership. You experience it as data fragmentation: you cannot easily answer “which paying members have not logged in for 60 days?” because the answer lives in three systems that do not talk to each other.

    On WordPress, the user account is a single primitive that every plugin builds on. The person who bought a subscription, completed a course, posted in the community and opened your last email is one record in one database. That makes retention work — segmentation, win-back campaigns, tier upgrades, renewal reminders — actually possible rather than theoretically possible.

    The objections, addressed

    “WordPress isn’t secure.” WordPress core is a mature, heavily audited codebase. The overwhelming majority of compromised sites are running outdated plugins, nulled themes or weak admin passwords on cheap shared hosting. Managed hosting, automatic updates, few plugins and two-factor authentication removes essentially all of the common risk.

    “It won’t scale.” WordPress runs some of the largest publishers on the internet. Membership sites are more database-intensive than blogs, which means they need appropriate hosting, object caching and a sensible plugin count — engineering decisions, not platform limits. A community that outgrows a well-configured WordPress installation is large enough to afford the engineering.

    “It looks dated.” That is a theme decision, not a platform one. Block themes and modern front ends produce whatever you want them to.

    “Maintaining it is a distraction from my actual business.” This one is fair, and it is the honest argument for hosted platforms. The counter is that managed hosting outsources most of it for a predictable monthly fee that is usually smaller than the per-member pricing you were comparing against.

    Where WordPress genuinely loses

    An honest case has to include the parts that are worse, because pretending otherwise is how people end up with an abandoned half-built site.

    • You are the operator. Updates, backups, security, uptime and performance are your responsibility or your host’s. Managed WordPress hosting removes most of this for a monthly fee.
    • Assembly is required. Hosted platforms ship a coherent product on day one. WordPress ships a foundation and a parts catalogue — the first two weeks are slower.
    • Plugin sprawl is a real failure mode. Thirty overlapping plugins is how sites become slow and fragile. Choose few, choose well-maintained.
    • Mobile is not automatic. A responsive site is not an app, and communities live on phones.

    These are all solvable with money or attention. The hosted platforms’ weaknesses — you do not own the members, the data or the economics — are not solvable at all, because they are the product.

    The decision, simplified

    Choose a hosted community platform if you want to test an idea this weekend, you have no technical appetite whatsoever, and the community is a side benefit rather than the business.

    Choose self-hosted WordPress if the membership is the business, if you intend to run it for more than a couple of years, if you will need integrations nobody has built yet, or if the idea of a vendor owning your member list keeps you up at night.

    For a feature-level comparison against the leading hosted options, see WordPress vs Circle, Mighty Networks and Skool. If you have already decided, the practical build guide covers the stack and the order to assemble it in.